Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264129AbTEXTxb (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2003 15:53:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264130AbTEXTxa (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2003 15:53:30 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]:53930 "EHLO main.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264129AbTEXTx3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2003 15:53:29 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Nicholas Wourms Subject: Re: Aix7xxx unstable in 2.4.21-rc2? (RE: Linux 2.4.21-rc2) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 16:06:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3ECFD0C9.7020002@myrealbox.com> References: <20030523085010$1ac2@gated-at.bofh.it> <20030523180021$109a@gated-at.bofh.it> <20030523203017$0e66@gated-at.bofh.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Cc: Willy Tarreau User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2596 Lines: 47 Pascal Schmidt wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2003 22:30:17 +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote in lkml: > > >>By this time, there will be more and more people leaving vanilla kernel for >>their machines, and using them only as a base to apply -aa, -ac, -jam, -wolk, >>-** + sf.net/* + who_knows_what, and I find it a shame. > > > I think you overestimate the number of aic7xxx users. It's not like > 99% of all 2.4 users need the driver. > I think you're smoking crack, I'd say that there are way more than 1% of the 2.4 users w/ an AIC-7XXX chipset based controller. I don't know how things are like in Germany, but around here, Adaptec is usually thought to be the mainstream choice in SCSI solutions for professional workstations and low-to-mid range servers [I Am Not A Product Market Analyst, so this is just my personal opinion based on my experiences in the VAR/Retail sector... YMMV]. Most of the popular OEM's offer some sort of SCSI option based on an AIC-7XXX series chipset for most of their non "home-use-only" lines. I can't even count how many motherboard manufactures have embedded the AIC-7XXX series chip into their motherboard to provide integrated SCSI solutions. Moreover, most of what Adaptec produces in their current core SCSI brand line (excepting DPT, etc) is based on some version of the AIC-7XXX chip. I can damn well say for sure there are more AIC-7XXX users then there are Fusion users and, as was pointed out, that code has gone through much more invasive changes to bring it up to speed. I think the bottom line is that those of us in Adaptec-userland would very much appreciate a *working*, current driver in the next kernel release. AFAICT, the old code base that was reverted to still has some annoying "quirks", and frankly doesn't perform as well as the current driver [at least for me]. So, invasive or not, I think we ought to be "testing the code" of a driver release written by a person who is well qualified to know the ins and outs of the hardware he is writing the code for. Obviously Justin has access to a multitude of Adaptec hardware and I am quite satisfied that he has sufficiently tested his modifications to the driver. Waiting until 2.4.22, let alone 2.4.21, is actually released just seems too far down the road to be sane. Just my $0.02 on this... Cheers, Nicholas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/