Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261919AbTEZRq1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2003 13:46:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261906AbTEZRq1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2003 13:46:27 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:17080 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261919AbTEZRqZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2003 13:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3ED255FE.10609@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:59:26 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021213 Debian/1.2.1-2.bunk X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jens Axboe CC: Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver References: <3ED1B261.8030708@pobox.com> <20030526172405.GJ845@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <20030526172405.GJ845@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1131 Lines: 34 Jens Axboe wrote: > On Mon, May 26 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >>>What does the block layer need, that it doesn't have now? >> >>Exactly. I'd _love_ for people to really think about this. > > > In discussion with Jeff, it seems most of what he wants is already > there. He just doesn't know it yet :-) Another important point is time. I continue to agree that a native block driver is the best direction. But with 2.6.0 looming, I think it's best to evolve my ATA driver to be a native block driver from a scsi one. Not start out as a native driver. That's significant pre-2.6 churn. Or, it lives out-of-tree until 2.7 and people with SATA hardware have to go out-of-tree for their driver for months and months, until the working driver is deemed sufficiently native :) In the meantime, distros wanting working SATA will just ship the SCSI driver as-is. :( Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/