Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261923AbTEZR6H (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2003 13:58:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261936AbTEZR6H (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2003 13:58:07 -0400 Received: from ns.virtualhost.dk ([195.184.98.160]:22975 "EHLO virtualhost.dk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261923AbTEZR6G (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2003 13:58:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:11:17 +0200 From: Jens Axboe To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver Message-ID: <20030526181117.GK845@suse.de> References: <3ED1B261.8030708@pobox.com> <20030526172405.GJ845@suse.de> <3ED255FE.10609@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3ED255FE.10609@pobox.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1741 Lines: 47 On Mon, May 26 2003, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Jens Axboe wrote: > >On Mon, May 26 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > >>>What does the block layer need, that it doesn't have now? > >> > >>Exactly. I'd _love_ for people to really think about this. > > > > > >In discussion with Jeff, it seems most of what he wants is already > >there. He just doesn't know it yet :-) > > > Another important point is time. > > I continue to agree that a native block driver is the best direction. > > But with 2.6.0 looming, I think it's best to evolve my ATA driver to be > a native block driver from a scsi one. Not start out as a native > driver. That's significant pre-2.6 churn. I don't think that makes any sense. If you really do find missing functionality that are candidates to be generic block property, we can add them. > Or, it lives out-of-tree until 2.7 and people with SATA hardware have to > go out-of-tree for their driver for months and months, until the working > driver is deemed sufficiently native :) In the meantime, distros > wanting working SATA will just ship the SCSI driver as-is. :( I don't know why you are even worrying about this yet, time will decide what happens. As it stands right now, I still consider your driver to be something to play with, not something that should go into the kernel anytime soon. Maybe in 6 months time it has evolved to be something really great, we add it then. Right now you are still in the design stages in some areas. -- Jens Axboe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/