Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753172AbdCWCHX (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:07:23 -0400 Received: from tartarus.angband.pl ([89.206.35.136]:50478 "EHLO tartarus.angband.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751503AbdCWCHS (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:07:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 03:06:52 +0100 From: Adam Borowski To: Tim Gardner Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Jiri Slaby , Scot Doyle Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-next] tty: Disable default console blanking interval Message-ID: <20170323020652.vfqsk2of5g22wtwi@angband.pl> References: <1490190632-10464-1-git-send-email-tim.gardner@canonical.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1490190632-10464-1-git-send-email-tim.gardner@canonical.com> X-Junkbait: aaron@angband.pl, zzyx@angband.pl User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: kilobyte@angband.pl X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on tartarus.angband.pl); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1847 Lines: 43 On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 07:50:32AM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote: > BugLink: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/869017 > > I'm not particularly knowledgable about console issues. Is a blaknking interval > relevant in a post CRT world ? The argument in the bug description seems > compelling. I have no direct knowledge about screen burn-in, but a quick search shows that, while not as prevalent as in the CRT days, it's still an issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=lcd%20screen%20burn-in > -static int blankinterval = 10*60; > +static int blankinterval; Thus, the current default might be safer: an even all-black image will keep the display readable as there won't be any localized artefacts. On the other hand, the photos I see are nowhere as bad as it was the case on CRTs, so this reason might be dismissed. There is another concern, though: light pollution. A white image makes the room bright enough to read by. Don't laugh but 20 years ago in the dorm I used to print \e[37;47;1m then 2000 'X'es to the screen to do things[1] (the overhead light would wake up the roommates). That was a CRT, LCDs are brighter. Obviously, lightgrey text on a black background producess less light than all-white, but a regular monitor probably still gives off a total amount of light similar to that of an all-white smartphone. I'm not sure how many non-X screens are placed in rooms where someone tries to sleep, but it's not something to ignore entirely. I'm not arguing a hard "no", but you should at least think of the above two concerns. [1]. Not reading obviously, I am not _that_ insane. :þ -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Meow! ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Collisions shmolisions, let's see them find a collision or second ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ preimage for double rot13!