Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263967AbTE0RYz (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:24:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263971AbTE0RYz (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:24:55 -0400 Received: from lindsey.linux-systeme.com ([80.190.48.67]:21254 "EHLO mx00.linux-systeme.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263967AbTE0RYu (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:24:50 -0400 From: Marc-Christian Petersen Organization: Working Overloaded Linux Kernel To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti , Carl-Daniel Hailfinger Subject: Re: 2.4.20: Proccess stuck in __lock_page ... Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:36:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 Cc: manish , Christian Klose , William Lee Irwin III References: <3ED2DE86.2070406@storadinc.com> <3ED372DB.1030907@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305271936.34006.m.c.p@wolk-project.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1080 Lines: 24 On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:27, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: Hi Marcelo, > > Following is SysRq-T output for stuck processes during such a pause from > > Christian Klose. Only processes in D state are listed for brevity. > > Especially the last two call traces are interesting. > A "pause" is perfectly fine (to some extent, of course), now a hang is > not. Is this backtrace from a hanged, unusable kernel or ? A pause is _not_ perfectly fine, even not to some extent. That pause we are discussing about is a pause of the _whole_ machine, not just disk i/o pauses. Mouse stops, keyboard stops, everything stops, who knows wtf. That behaviour is absolutely bullshit for desktop users. For serverusage you may not notice it in this dimension (mostly no X so no mouse), but also for a server environment this may be very bad. ciao, Marc - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/