Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264002AbTE0RmW (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:42:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264005AbTE0RlP (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:41:15 -0400 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:55045 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264002AbTE0Rkb (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:40:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Alan Cox cc: Ricky Beam , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.5.70 In-Reply-To: <1054054133.18814.3.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 32 On 27 May 2003, Alan Cox wrote: > > Architectures are also normally just a sync up job and its again easier > to do once the core has stoppee changing. Indeed. I think its more the rule than the exception that non-x86 architectures "get with the program" sometime during the stable release rather than before. There's just not a lot of incentive for the odd-ball architectures to care before the fact. Would I prefer to have everything fixed by 2.6.0 (or even the pre-2.6 kernels)? Sure, everybody would. But it's just a fact of life that we won't see people who care about the issues before that happens. In fact, judging by past performance, a lot of things won't get fixed before the actual vendors have made _releases_ that use 2.6.x (and the first ones inevitably will have 2.4.x as a fall-back: that's only prudent and sane). This is not just a core kernel issue - we've seen this with subsystems like ext3 and ReiserFS: they were "finished' and "stable", but what made them _really_ stable was a release or two on vendor kernels, and thousands of users. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/