Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263997AbTE0TFM (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 15:05:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264007AbTE0TFM (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 15:05:12 -0400 Received: from hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.202.12]:30968 "HELO hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263997AbTE0TFL (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 May 2003 15:05:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:18:18 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Ricky Beam Cc: Linus Torvalds , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.5.70 Message-ID: <20030527191818.GC19265@fs.tum.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1797 Lines: 42 On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 02:09:43PM -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: > > Allow me to clarify... I don't mind drivers not working. I *do* mind > drivers emitting hundreds of warnings and errors because dozens of things > were changed and no one cared to update everything they broke. In some > cases, fixing things may be simple (eg. someone removed or renamed a field > in a struct somewhere) and in others years of work my be required (eg. > the new module interface.) Many warnings are for problems that were already present in 2.4 or for using deprecated (IOW: working) functions. It might be a thought to probably disable deprecated warnings for stable kernel releases (read 2.6.0, 2.6.1,...) but it's not always a measurement for how far away we are from 2.6. And besides, a full build of 2.4.20 with gcc 2.95 gives you 103 warnings. > In my opinion (as it was in the long long ago), everything in a "stable" > release should at least compile cleanly -- "working" comes later after > users have been conned into using it. IMHO compiling and non-working (or worse: working but data-corrupting) is worse than non-compiling. It might be a good idea to let broken drivers depend on an (undefined) CONFIG_BROKEN, but this is only a minor detail with no influence on the 2.6 schedule. > --Ricky cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/