Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754815AbdDDQMx (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Apr 2017 12:12:53 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([65.50.211.133]:37733 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752518AbdDDQMv (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Apr 2017 12:12:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 09:12:47 -0700 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Jeff Layton Cc: NeilBrown , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, tytso@mit.edu, jack@suse.cz Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] fs: introduce new writeback error tracking infrastructure and convert ext4 to use it Message-ID: <20170404161247.GJ30811@bombadil.infradead.org> References: <20170331192603.16442-1-jlayton@redhat.com> <87fuhqkti0.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <1491215318.2724.3.camel@redhat.com> <20170403143257.GA30811@bombadil.infradead.org> <1491241657.2673.10.camel@redhat.com> <20170403191602.GF30811@bombadil.infradead.org> <1491250577.2673.20.camel@redhat.com> <87h924kh6t.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <20170404115358.GH30811@bombadil.infradead.org> <1491308268.20445.4.camel@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1491308268.20445.4.camel@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1391 Lines: 31 On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 08:17:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > Agreed that we should focus on POSIX compliance. I'll also note that > POSIX states: > > "If more than one error occurs in processing a function call, any one > of the possible errors may be returned, as the order of > detection is undefined." > > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/V2_chap02.html#tag_15_03 > > So, I'd like to push back on this idea that we need to prefer reporting > -EIO over other errors. POSIX certainly doesn't mandate that. I honestly wonder if we need to support ENOSPC from writeback at all. Looking at our history, the AS_EIO / AS_ENOSPC came from this patch in 2003: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tglx/history.git/commit/?id=fcad2b42fc2e15a94ba1a1ba8535681a735bfd16 That seems to come from here: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0308.0/0205.html which is marked as a resend, but I can't find the original. It's a little misleading because the immediately preceding patch introduced mapping->error, so there's no precedent here to speak of. It looks like we used to just silently lose writeback errors (*cough*). I'd like to suggest that maybe we don't need to support multiple errors at all. That all errors, including ENOSPC, get collapsed into EIO. POSIX already tells us to do that for close() and permits us to do that for fsync().