Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755082AbdDDWaG (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Apr 2017 18:30:06 -0400 Received: from gum.cmpxchg.org ([85.214.110.215]:43734 "EHLO gum.cmpxchg.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751854AbdDDWaE (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Apr 2017 18:30:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 18:29:52 -0400 From: Johannes Weiner To: Andrew Morton Cc: Rik van Riel , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vladimir Davydov , linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: vmscan: fix IO/refault regression in cache workingset transition Message-ID: <20170404222952.GA28930@cmpxchg.org> References: <20170404220052.27593-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org> <20170404150703.742c49d73921df6369ed3dbd@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170404150703.742c49d73921df6369ed3dbd@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1875 Lines: 37 On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 03:07:03PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 18:00:52 -0400 Johannes Weiner wrote: > > > Since 59dc76b0d4df ("mm: vmscan: reduce size of inactive file list") > > we noticed bigger IO spikes during changes in cache access patterns. > > > > The patch in question shrunk the inactive list size to leave more room > > for the current workingset in the presence of streaming IO. However, > > workingset transitions that previously happened on the inactive list > > are now pushed out of memory and incur more refaults to complete. > > > > This patch disables active list protection when refaults are being > > observed. This accelerates workingset transitions, and allows more of > > the new set to establish itself from memory, without eating into the > > ability to protect the established workingset during stable periods. > > > > Fixes: 59dc76b0d4df ("mm: vmscan: reduce size of inactive file list") > > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner > > Cc: # 4.7+ > > That's a pretty large patch and the problem has been there for a year. > I'm not sure that it's 4.11 material, let alone -stable. Care to > explain further? The problem statement is a little terse, my apologies. The workloads that were measurably affected for us were hit pretty bad by it, with refault/majfault rates doubling and tripling during cache transitions, and the machines sustaining half-hour periods of 100% IO utilization, where they'd previously have sub-minute peaks at 60-90%. Stateful services that handle user data tend to be more conservative with kernel upgrades. As a result we hit most page cache issues with some delay, as was the case here. The severity seemed to warrant a stable tag, but I agree that holding out until 4.11.1 is probably better, given the invasiveness of this.