Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:53:05 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/fair: update scale invariance of PELT
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On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Le Monday 10 Apr 2017 ? 19:38:02 (+0200), Peter Zijlstra a ?crit :
> > 
> > Thanks for the rebase.
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:18:29AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, so let me try and paraphrase what this patch does.
> > 
> > So consider a task that runs 16 out of our 32ms window:
> > 
> >    running   idle
> >   |---------|---------|
> > 
> > 
> > You're saying that when we scale running with the frequency, suppose we
> > were at 50% freq, we'll end up with:
> > 
> >    run  idle
> >   |----|---------|
> > 
> > 
> > Which is obviously a shorter total then before; so what you do is add
> > back the lost idle time like:
> > 
> >    run  lost idle
> >   |----|----|---------|
> > 
> > 
> > to arrive at the same total time. Which seems to make sense.
> 
> Yes

OK, bear with me.


So we have:


  util_sum' = utilsum * y^p +

                                 p-1
              d1 * y^p + 1024 * \Sum y^n + d3 * y^0
	                         n=1

For the unscaled version, right?

Now for the scaled version, instead of adding a full 'd1,d2,d3' running
segments, we want to add partially running segments, where r=f*d/f_max,
and lost segments l=d-r to fill out the idle time.

But afaict we then end up with (F=f/f_max):


  util_sum' = utilsum * y^p +

                                         p-1
              F * d1 * y^p + F * 1024 * \Sum y^n + F * d3 * y^0
	                                 n=1

And we can collect the common term F:

  util_sum' = utilsum * y^p +

                                      p-1
              F * (d1 * y^p + 1024 * \Sum y^n + d3 * y^0)
	                              n=1


Which is exactly what we already did.

So now I'm confused. Where did I go wrong?


Because by scaling the contribution we get the exact result of doing the
smaller 'running' + 'lost' segments.