Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S936264AbdDSOwo (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:52:44 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:59442 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S936189AbdDSOwe (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:52:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:52:15 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Christian Borntraeger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com, marc.zyngier@arm.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.12 Message-ID: <20170419145214.y4in7mjfyhu33bpt@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20170412165441.GA17149@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170417232714.GA19013@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170419112845.3rt3zlyzuzert647@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20170419120847.GB3029@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20170419144730.GA20845@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170419144730.GA20845@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 694 Lines: 14 On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 07:47:30AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > The RCU expedited primitives have been completely rewritten since then, > and no longer use try_stop_cpus(), no longer disturb idle CPUs, and no > longer disturb nohz_full CPUs running in userspace. In addition, there > is the rcupdate.rcu_normal kernel boot paramter for those who want to > completely avoid RCU expedited primitives. > > So it seems to me to be time for the patch below. Thoughts? So I forgot all the details again; but if I'm not mistaken it still prods CPUs with IPIs (just not idle/nohz_full CPUs). So its still not ideal to sprinkle them around. Which would still argue against using them too much.