Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264689AbTFEQdz (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:33:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264746AbTFEQdy (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:33:54 -0400 Received: from e1.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.101]:30419 "EHLO e1.ny.us.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264689AbTFEQdx (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:33:53 -0400 From: Kevin Corry To: dm-devel@sistina.com, Linux Mailing List Subject: Re: [RFC] device-mapper ioctl interface Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:47:10 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030605093943.GD434@fib011235813.fsnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20030605093943.GD434@fib011235813.fsnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306051147.10775.kevcorry@us.ibm.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3131 Lines: 68 On Thursday 05 June 2003 04:39, Joe Thornber wrote: > Here's the header file for the the proposed new ioctl interface for > dm. We've tried to change as little as possible to minimise code > changes in LVM2 and EVMS. > > The changes address the following problems: > > o) Alignment mistakes in the ioctl structures > > o) Provide a way for the userland tools to back out of a series of > table updates without having to reload the orginal tables (remember > that an LV is often composed of a stack of 2 or more dm devices). This should be very helpful for error recovery when setting up snapshots. > o) Pre-loading of a new table may now occur without suspending the > device. (Table loading can potentially allocate a lot of memory, > eg. mirror buffers). Cool. > o) Minimise the amount of time that a device is suspended. eg. if a > simple linear mapping is being extended, there is no longer a need to > call the suspend ioctl in between the table load and the resume. > Instead the resume (which swaps in the new table), will do the right > thing. Also very nice. This ought to elimate the possibility of deadlock due to suspending the device from user-space. I really like this solution! I'll bring up a couple of the points Alasdair and I were discussing on irc yesterday: 1) Snapshots. Currently, the snapshot module, when it constructs a new table, reads the header and existing exception tables from disk to determine the initial state of the snapshot. With this new scheme, this setup really shouldn't happen until the device is resumed (if it is done when the "inactive" table is created, an existing "active" table could change the on-disk information before the tables are switched). This kind of implies a new entry-point into the target module will be required. 2) Removing suspended devices. The current code (2.5.70) does not allow a suspended device to be removed/unlinked from the ioctl interface, since removing it would leave you with no way to resume it (and hence flush any pending I/Os). Alasdair mentioned a couple of new ideas. One would be to reload the device with an error-map and force it to resume, thus erroring any pending I/Os and allowing the device to be removed. This seems a bit heavy-handed. Another idea was to allow removing suspended-devices which aren't open. But that seems a bit racy. The current code doesn't seem to coordinate removal of a device from the interface with opening of the device. So you could potentially be opening the device at the same time you are removing it from the interface. Personally, I think the current behavior is fine. User-space can use the new list-devices command along with the dev-status command to determine if a device should be resumed before trying to remove it. Any thoughts? -- Kevin Corry kevcorry@us.ibm.com http://evms.sourceforge.net/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/