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Subject: RE: /proc/bus/pci
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:03:40 -0700
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From: "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>
To: "Robert White" <rwhite@casabyte.com>,
       "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
       "Albert Cahalan" <albert@users.sourceforge.net>
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       <bcollins@debian.org>, <wli@holomorphy.com>, <tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com>,
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What about "PCI segment"?

Another overloaded CS word but it's certainly better than some of the
alternatives below. It's also the only one that is actually used in a
relevant specification (the ACPI spec.)

Regards - Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert White [mailto:rwhite@casabyte.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:25 PM
> To: Linus Torvalds; Albert Cahalan
> Cc: linux-kernel; davem@redhat.com; bcollins@debian.org; 
> wli@holomorphy.com; tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com; anton@samba.org
> Subject: RE: /proc/bus/pci
> 
> 
> My Humble Opinion:
> 
> "hose0" -> bad, I know I didn't have a clue where it came from
> 
> "domain0" -> obscure but mathematical 8-), probably hard to 
> teach what with
> the name used all over heck
> 
> "phb0" -> "eh what is phb?"  "primary host bridge"...
> 
> "bridge0" -> not bad, is it platform agnostic? (e.g. is the connection
> called a bridge on non- Intel/AMD/PS platforms?)  don't 
> know...  but if it
> is... good
> 
> Note:  There are no "good" synonyms for "Domain"  (from M-W.com:)
> 
> "field, bailiwick, champaign, demesne, dominion, province, 
> sphere, terrain,
> territory, walk"
> 
> So, my heard groans for another "domain" in the computer, and 
> I like the way
> bridge reads
> 
> "devices/bridge0/bus2/dev11/fn0/whatever"
> 
> but regardless (going back to pc-isms) that puts things like 
> the pci-agp
> "bridge" and such into the namespace if one were to be especially
> conformant, which may or may not be a good thing.
> 
> Rob.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Linus Torvalds
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:52 AM
> To: Albert Cahalan
> Cc: linux-kernel; davem@redhat.com; bcollins@debian.org;
> wli@holomorphy.com; tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com; anton@samba.org
> Subject: Re: /proc/bus/pci
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> >
> > Some of the IBMers use "phb" instead of "hose" or "domain".
> 
> Gods, did they run out of vowels in _that_ part of IBM too?
> 
> Where do they go? Is there somebody at IBM that hoards 
> vowels, and will
> one day hold the rest of the world hostage? "Mwahahahaa! If 
> you don't buy
> support from IBM, you can never use the letter 'A' again! 
> Whahahahhhaah!".
> 
> I can see it now.
> 
> 
> What the _f*ck_ is wrong with just calling it "PCI domain". 
> It's a fine
> word, and yes, "domain" is used commonly in computer 
> language, but that's
> a _good_ thing. Everybody immediately understands what it is about.
> 
> There is no goodness to acronyms where you have to be some 
> "insider" to
> know what the hell it means. That "hose" thing has the same problem: I
> don't know about anybody else, but to me a "hose" is a logn 
> narrow conduit
> for water, and a "PCI hose" doesn't much make sense to me.
> 
> A "phb" just makes me go "Whaa?"
> 
> 		Linus
> 
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