Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263638AbTFLLYU (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:24:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264620AbTFLLYO (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:24:14 -0400 Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.176]:30427 "EHLO postfix4-2.free.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263638AbTFLLYK (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:24:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3EE86864.5070207@free.fr> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:47:48 +0200 From: Eric Valette Reply-To: eric.valette@free.fr Organization: HOME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030529 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Bunk Cc: marcelo@conectiva.com.br, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.4.22 timeline was RE: 2.4.21-rc7 ACPI broken References: <3EE66C86.8090708@free.fr> <20030611211506.GD16164@fs.tum.de> In-Reply-To: <20030611211506.GD16164@fs.tum.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1910 Lines: 53 Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 01:40:54AM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: > >>... >>I would personnally suggest that you classify the things using the >>following filter : >> a) Server (SMP, SCSI, RAID, journaling filesystems, ...), >> b) laptop (ACPI, CPUFREQ, Software suspend, IDE power save,...), >> c) desktop (File system efficiency, new hardware support,...), >> d) all systems >>... > > > Why are journaling filesystems only for servers? > Is file system efficiency not relevant on servers? I was just making suggestions after a 30s thinking. Side comments, readding this mailling list, I had the impression that journaling and filesystem performance do not seem to mix well. Also on server, you have probably extra backup hardware and means (e.g RAID, DAT, DLT, ...) > The important sections are more likely (ordered by priority): > - bug fixes (e.g. aic7xxx) > - support for additional hardware (e.g. ACPI update) > - new features (e.g. XFS) Personnaly, I dislike this approach as it as resulted in 2.4 being non usable for servers (SMP deadlocks, IO stalls, unresponsiveness for several seconds, ...) and laptop (ACPI)... > The important thing is that this is inside a stable kernel series and an > update that makes things better for 100 people but makes things worse > for one person is IMHO bad since it's a regression for one person. If 2.4 kernel is not usable without patching, It is far worse for me... -- __ / ` Eric Valette /-- __ o _. 6 rue Paul Le Flem (___, / (_(_(__ 35740 Pace Tel: +33 (0)2 99 85 26 76 Fax: +33 (0)2 99 85 26 76 E-mail: eric.valette@free.fr - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/