Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752863AbdFUJxO (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Jun 2017 05:53:14 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-f67.google.com ([209.85.215.67]:35263 "EHLO mail-lf0-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752831AbdFUJxJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Jun 2017 05:53:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:53:03 +0300 From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" To: Catalin Marinas Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Andrew Morton , Vlastimil Babka , Vineet Gupta , Russell King , Will Deacon , Ralf Baechle , "David S. Miller" , "Aneesh Kumar K . V" , Martin Schwidefsky , Heiko Carstens , Andrea Arcangeli , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar , "H . Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Message-ID: <20170621095303.q5fqt5a3ao5smko6@node.shutemov.name> References: <20170615145224.66200-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <20170615145224.66200-2-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <20170619152228.GE3024@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20170619160005.wgj4nymtj2nntfll@node.shutemov.name> <20170619170911.GF3024@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20170619215210.2crwjou3sfdcj73d@node.shutemov.name> <20170620155438.GC21383@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170620155438.GC21383@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3536 Lines: 71 On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 04:54:38PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:52:10AM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:09:12PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 07:00:05PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 04:22:29PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:52:22PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > > > > > > We need an atomic way to setup pmd page table entry, avoiding races with > > > > > > CPU setting dirty/accessed bits. This is required to implement > > > > > > pmdp_invalidate() that doesn't loose these bits. > > > > > > > > > > > > On PAE we have to use cmpxchg8b as we cannot assume what is value of new pmd and > > > > > > setting it up half-by-half can expose broken corrupted entry to CPU. > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov > > > > > > Cc: Ingo Molnar > > > > > > Cc: H. Peter Anvin > > > > > > Cc: Thomas Gleixner > > > > > > > > > > I'll look at this from the arm64 perspective. It would be good if we can > > > > > have a generic atomic implementation based on cmpxchg64 but I need to > > > > > look at the details first. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's possbile. > > > > > > > > The format of a page table is defined per-arch. We cannot assume much about > > > > it in generic code. > > > > > > > > I guess we could make it compile by casting to 'unsigned long', but is it > > > > useful? > > > > Every architecture manintainer still has to validate that this assumption > > > > is valid for the architecture. > > > > > > You are right, not much gained in doing this. > > > > > > Maybe a stupid question but can we not implement pmdp_invalidate() with > > > something like pmdp_get_and_clear() (usually reusing the ptep_* > > > equivalent). Or pmdp_clear_flush() (again, reusing ptep_clear_flush())? > > > > > > In my quick grep on pmdp_invalidate, it seems to be followed by > > > set_pmd_at() or pmd_populate() already and the *pmd value after > > > mknotpresent isn't any different from 0 to the hardware (at least on > > > ARM). That's unless Linux expects to see some non-zero value here if > > > walking the page tables on another CPU. > > > > The whole reason to have pmdp_invalidate() in first place is to never make > > pmd clear in the middle. Otherwise we will get race with MADV_DONTNEED. > > See ced108037c2a for an example of such race. > > Thanks for the explanation. So you basically just want to set a !present > and !none pmd. I noticed that with your proposed pmdp_invalidate(), > pmdp_establish(pmd_mknotpresent(*pmdp)) could set a stale *pmdp (with > the present bit cleared) temporarily until updated with what > pmdp_establish() returned. Is there a risk of racing with other parts of > the kernel? I guess not since the pmd is !present. I don't see such risk. Other parts of the kernel would see non-present pmd and will have to take ptl to do anything meaningful with it. pmdp_invalidate() caller has to hold ptl too, so the race is excluded. > For arm64, I don't see the point of a cmpxchg, so something like below > would do (it needs proper testing though): Right. cmpxchg is required for x86 PAE, as it has sizeof(pmd_t) > sizeof(long). We don't have 8-byte xchg() there. Thanks, for the patch. I assume, I can use your signed-off-by, right? Any chance you could help me with arm too? -- Kirill A. Shutemov