Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754945AbdFWUaT (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:30:19 -0400 Received: from nm3-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.19]:48678 "EHLO nm3-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754946AbdFWUaQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:30:16 -0400 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 447037.61380.bm@smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: zlrYp4UVM1kIq4xnj90g5mhrZGc0qteRPJ2azyUC7QRTD4e 2qwydR2icpNRmnfHfgWp4OsW76FkqvKwvw6J5C83j9gPamhovyisALj_LJYX zPI27D5HxmkBJT4ro9dAfE7WQNNMA.chlJfOygc7ykGpAYdD879hdKiMteLB TLHhzfbpIYMaewsoibGMOf0phONC9K4J17iw2HvOMt20oY.hPE7RSfzQsdZ7 QCInqgY_ENzFmLOB7xZBS.DcVSLbK9bfQCEclxcY1sTLZ13XlNyqCgZQ71hn e6g5IKmaSlrizLeJB_Go2y1hXNDtXNY3xZyHbxHvOS7wqOG2a9TkUGhuxTW1 c46Oo0LV1K0WZ.Q1mWyTM9LUhO4KEP2XaPV2kqiWjyMg0l0tSVW2KZ7LGGbA gZ3MFkjNi7zna_U_td2N5bPl2Rg33CTwPpm81H8fNKe52f1JXd.hgOLX5XMr rlSUknqpH5fDrafN.XASqXKB75QQ2lDuZxxFfz0A.HVLJDtJHAkDMS6SEmYN PSmaAYp01jWxQ6wWXyL3EMuImrxgY58Yq_ckW4A1G5onqhpf1UP2qPgn4bgU C_RjbJcJsDOc5H58- X-Yahoo-SMTP: OIJXglSswBDfgLtXluJ6wiAYv6_cnw-- Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Enable namespaced file capabilities To: "Serge E. Hallyn" , Stefan Berger Cc: Amir Goldstein , "Eric W. Biederman" , Linux Containers , lkp@01.org, xiaolong.ye@intel.com, linux-kernel , Mimi Zohar , Tycho Andersen , James Bottomley , christian.brauner@mailbox.org, Vivek Goyal , LSM List References: <1498157989-11814-1-git-send-email-stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170623160026.GA18257@mail.hallyn.com> <3404c486-c848-3283-50f7-2283cb631e8e@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170623183520.GC21137@mail.hallyn.com> From: Casey Schaufler Message-ID: <9eba9a52-80d4-8e31-4c2e-2dc601526765@schaufler-ca.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 13:30:01 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170623183520.GC21137@mail.hallyn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2879 Lines: 59 On 6/23/2017 11:35 AM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > Quoting Stefan Berger (stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com): >> On 06/23/2017 12:16 PM, Casey Schaufler wrote: >>> On 6/23/2017 9:00 AM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: >>>> Quoting Amir Goldstein (amir73il@gmail.com): >>>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Stefan Berger >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> This series of patches primary goal is to enable file capabilities >>>>>> in user namespaces without affecting the file capabilities that are >>>>>> effective on the host. This is to prevent that any unprivileged user >>>>>> on the host maps his own uid to root in a private namespace, writes >>>>>> the xattr, and executes the file with privilege on the host. >>>>>> >>>>>> We achieve this goal by writing extended attributes with a different >>>>>> name when a user namespace is used. If for example the root user >>>>>> in a user namespace writes the security.capability xattr, the name >>>>>> of the xattr that is actually written is encoded as >>>>>> security.capability@uid=1000 for root mapped to uid 1000 on the host. >>>>>> When listing the xattrs on the host, the existing security.capability >>>>>> as well as the security.capability@uid=1000 will be shown. Inside the >>>>>> namespace only 'security.capability', with the value of >>>>>> security.capability@uid=1000, is visible. >>>>>> >>>>> Am I the only one who thinks that suffix is perhaps not the best grammar >>>>> to use for this namespace? >>>> You're the only one to have mentioned it so far. >>>> >>>>> xattrs are clearly namespaced by prefix, so it seems right to me to keep >>>>> it that way - define a new special xattr namespace "ns" and only if that >>>>> prefix exists, the @uid suffix will be parsed. >>>>> This could be either ns.security.capability@uid=1000 or >>>>> ns@uid=1000.security.capability. The latter seems more correct to me, >>>>> because then we will be able to namespace any xattr without having to >>>>> protect from "unprivileged xattr injection", i.e.: >>>>> setfattr -n "user.whatever.foo@uid=0" >>>> I like it for simplifying the parser code. One concern I have is that, >>>> since ns.* is currently not gated, one could write ns.* on an older >>>> kernel and then exploit it on a newer one. >>> security.ns.capability@uid=1000, then? >> Imo, '.ns' is redundant and 'encoded' in the '@'. > So how about > security.@uid=1000@@capability ? You're back to messing up the final component of the attribute name. If you want a namespace component, keep it separate. I disagree with the ".ns" being redundant. It's descriptive. security.ns@uid=1000@@.capability. looks right to me. > > Maybe it's not worth it. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-security-module" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >