Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932161AbdGCQk2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jul 2017 12:40:28 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f45.google.com ([209.85.218.45]:33269 "EHLO mail-oi0-f45.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932087AbdGCQkX (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jul 2017 12:40:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170703161851.GY2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> References: <20170629235918.GA6445@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1498780894-8253-8-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170630091928.GC9726@arm.com> <20170630123815.GT2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170630131339.GA14118@arm.com> <20170630221840.GI2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170703131514.GE1573@arm.com> <20170703161851.GY2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 09:40:22 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: H7LU0x7_8_JgmoTHxeNZMFA4BhY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 08/26] locking: Remove spin_unlock_wait() generic definitions To: Paul McKenney Cc: Will Deacon , Linux Kernel Mailing List , NetFilter , Network Development , Oleg Nesterov , Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar , Davidlohr Bueso , Manfred Spraul , Tejun Heo , Arnd Bergmann , "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" , Peter Zijlstra , Alan Stern , Andrea Parri Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 767 Lines: 23 On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > Agreed, and my next step is to look at spin_lock() followed by > spin_is_locked(), not necessarily the same lock. Hmm. Most (all?) "spin_is_locked()" really should be about the same thread that took the lock (ie it's about asserts and lock debugging). The optimistic ABBA avoidance pattern for spinlocks *should* be spin_lock(inner) ... if (!try_lock(outer)) { spin_unlock(inner); .. do them in the right order .. so I don't think spin_is_locked() should have any memory barriers. In fact, the core function for spin_is_locked() is arguably arch_spin_value_unlocked() which doesn't even do the access itself. Linus