Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 06:54:15 -0300
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
To: Jim Davis <jim.epost@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
        linux-doc <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
        Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Make PDF builds work again
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Em Wed, 5 Jul 2017 14:22:35 -0700
Jim Davis <jim.epost@gmail.com> escreveu:

> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:44 AM, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 10:25:38 +0200
> > Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >  
> >> Only now stumbled over the full thread, but the drm patch is already
> >> queued up for at least 4.13 (Dave was out and all that). I guess we could
> >> try to cherry-pick through stable.  
> >
> > I kind of gave up on the 4.12 goal, at least for now.  The number of
> > complaints has not been huge - I suspect you're far from the only one who
> > is not too worried about building PDFs...:)  
> 
> If fixing pdf (and ps) builds isn't worth the bother -- which I
> wouldn't debate -- then it's best to just drop those build targets.
> The only worrisome thing I see here is having build targets carried
> from release to release that don't work.

My $5 cents on that. We do automatic pdf builds at linuxtv.org
since when we moved the media books to Sphinx. In order to avoid
regressions, we use a virtual environment for Sphinx, and we only
update to a newer version after checking if the upgrade won't break
build. Currently, it is running Sphinx version 1.4.9.

I did a grep on the access for the media.pdf doc at the apache's
log. We don't keep a long history there.

We had 41 accesses to the pdf logs over the last ~3 days, with means
that people are finding PDF output useful.

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>From my side, I like having everything into a single file
specially when I'm needing to find things at the document. Well,
ePub sort of provides that, but it is a way worse than PDF or
html, specially when big tables are there. Btw, over the
last ~3 days, we had only 1 access to the ePub version. So, not a
very popular format.

Thanks,
Mauro