Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753496AbdGLPzI (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:55:08 -0400 Received: from mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com ([148.163.156.1]:36311 "EHLO mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753177AbdGLPzH (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:55:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 08:54:58 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Frederic Weisbecker , Christoph Lameter , "Li, Aubrey" , Andi Kleen , Aubrey Li , tglx@linutronix.de, len.brown@intel.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, arjan@linux.intel.com, yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Create fast idle path for short idle periods Reply-To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com References: <20170710084647.zs6wkl3fumszd33g@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20170710144609.GD31832@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20170710164206.5aon5kelbisxqyxq@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20170710172705.GA3441@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20170711094157.5xcwkloxnjehieqv@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20170711160926.GA18805@lerouge> <20170711163422.etydkhhtgfthpfi5@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20170711180931.GP2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170712122249.u6y4ymmk6qwvog57@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170712122249.u6y4ymmk6qwvog57@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 17071215-0024-0000-0000-000002AE45FC X-IBM-SpamModules-Scores: X-IBM-SpamModules-Versions: BY=3.00007355; HX=3.00000241; KW=3.00000007; PH=3.00000004; SC=3.00000214; SDB=6.00886558; UDB=6.00442553; IPR=6.00666707; BA=6.00005468; NDR=6.00000001; ZLA=6.00000005; ZF=6.00000009; ZB=6.00000000; ZP=6.00000000; ZH=6.00000000; ZU=6.00000002; MB=3.00016198; XFM=3.00000015; UTC=2017-07-12 15:55:03 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 17071215-0025-0000-0000-000044BAADF3 Message-Id: <20170712155458.GW2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2017-07-12_05:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1706020000 definitions=main-1707120251 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1048 Lines: 25 On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 02:22:49PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:09:31AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 06:34:22PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > Also, RCU_FAST_NO_HZ will make a fairly large difference here.. Paul > > > what's the state of that thing, do we actually want that or not? > > > > If you are battery powered and don't have tight real-time latency > > constraints, you want it -- it has represent a 30-40% boost in battery > > lifetime for some low-utilization battery-powered devices. Otherwise, > > probably not. > > Would it make sense to hook that off of tick_nohz_idle_enter(); in > specific the part where we actually stop the tick; instead of every > idle? The actions RCU takes on RCU_FAST_NO_HZ depend on the current state of the CPU's callback lists, so it seems to me that the decision has to be made on each idle entry. Now it might be possible to make the checks more efficient, and doing that is on my list. Or am I missing your point? Thanx, Paul