From: Thorsten =?iso-8859-1?q?K=F6rner?= <thorstenkoerner@123tkshop.org>
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Subject: Re: Troll Tech [was RE: Sco vs. IBM]
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:41:46 +0200
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Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 21:30 schrieb Jesse Pollard:
> On Thursday 19 June 2003 14:08, Thorsten K?rner wrote:
> > Hi Jesse
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 20:58 schrieb Jesse Pollard:
> > > On Thursday 19 June 2003 12:37, Downing, Thomas wrote:
> > > > I'm no authority, but IMHO
> > > >
> > > > > In article <20030619141443.GR29247@fs.tum.de>,
> > > > >
> > > > > Adrian Bunk  <bunk@fs.tum.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > > Which makes no sense. You're not at the mercy of Linus or the
> > > > > kernel developers, neither at that of the KDE developers, but
> > > > > TrollTech controls the KDE desktop wrt commercial apps.
> > > >
> > > > No, they don't.  KDE uses the GPL for QT.  If I build a commercial
> > > > app using KDE, it is GPL.  If I build a commercial app not using
> > > > KDE, but using commercial QT, that has no effect on the KDE desktop.
> > >
> > > Lets see...
> > >
> > > SCO releases Linux code under GPL...
> >
> > Did they ?!? No they didn't
> > They are talking about old Unix-Licenses, not about Linux. And SCO also
> > has not licensed Unix to IBM themselves.
>
> It was my understanding that you could download SCO Linux up until about a
> month after they started the lawsuit. By that time, all/most of the
> contested code had to already be in the kernel. Since SCO was supplying it,
> it was released (my opinion).
The lawsuit has nothing to do with Caldera or SCO-Linux. It's to make money.
The SCO-People seem to have read the book "How to make money while doing 
nothing" ;-)
>
> IMHO IBM AIX doesn't owe anything to SCO. Sure in the early days, IBM did
> consider using System V... but it had so many problems being ported that
> they completely dropped it, and continued with AIX development instead.
>
> I've used both.. and believe me, AIX doesn't work ANYTHING like System V.
> no virtualization (disks), no partitioning (systems), no distributed
> operations, minimal networking, no Power support... (this was a 202e
> prototype at the time I believe...
>
> All of that belonged to AIX. which even had SMP beginnings (some
> platforms). Even shared memory was not exactly working well on System V
> (semaphores were very slow).

That maybe right, I've never used AIX. But one single line of code would be 
enough for SCO. And I think there maybe some more than one line. Surely is it 
old code. But they say it's owned by IBM.
I hope that one day jugdes will stop companies and people from making money 
that dark way. But I think that this hope is slightly irrealistic.

CU
Thorsten
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