Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261928AbTFSXcc (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:32:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262008AbTFSXbA (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:31:00 -0400 Received: from fw-az.mvista.com ([65.200.49.158]:63473 "EHLO zipcode.az.mvista.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261928AbTFSX22 (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:28:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3EF24A70.4010608@mvista.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:42:40 -0700 From: Steven Dake User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Werner Almesberger CC: Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] udev enhancements to use kernel event queue References: <3EE8D038.7090600@mvista.com> <20030619203230.E6248@almesberger.net> In-Reply-To: <20030619203230.E6248@almesberger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1027 Lines: 38 Werner Almesberger wrote: >Linus Torvalds wrote: > > >>[ Event demons ] encourage doing everything in one program, >>keeping state in private memory, depending on ordering, and just >>generally do bad things. >> >> > >Well, the ordering bit is the hairy part. As long as it doesn't >matter if an event gets lost every once in a while, and in which >order they get processed, things are fine as they are. > >But then it scares me to see people start to try to design some >general serialization mechanism on top of /sbin/hotplug > > A serialization methodology can be built on /sbin/hotplug, but it has all of the problems that Linus previously talked about for a kernel event queue. The difference is that the problem is moved to userland. >- Werner > > -steve - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/