Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752709AbdGRRFx (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:05:53 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:52988 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751997AbdGRRFW (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:05:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 19:05:11 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, "Li, Aubrey" , Thomas Gleixner , Andi Kleen , Frederic Weisbecker , Christoph Lameter , Aubrey Li , len.brown@intel.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Create fast idle path for short idle periods Message-ID: <20170718170511.m73o7ee2izsy6u66@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20170714162619.GJ3441@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20170717192309.ubn5muvc3u7htuaw@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <34371ef8-b8bc-d2bf-93de-3fccd6beb032@linux.intel.com> <20170718044521.GO3441@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20170718152014.GB3981@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <72182f86-261b-1952-b1c2-864f43e15b0c@linux.intel.com> <20170718163629.cinz7my6caxlcasa@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 534 Lines: 14 On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:37:57AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > that's just a matter of fixing the C1 and later thresholds to line up right. > shrug that's the most trivial thing to do, it's a number in a table. Well, they represent a physical measure, namely the break-even-time. If you go muck with them you don't have anything left. This is tinkering of the worst possible kind. Fix the estimator if you want behavioural changes. > some distros do those tunings anyway when they don't like the upstream tunings *shudder*