Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262598AbTFTJza (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:55:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262601AbTFTJz3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:55:29 -0400 Received: from mail.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.8]:25863 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S262598AbTFTJz2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:55:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:09:10 +0200 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: Werner Almesberger Cc: lm@work.bitmover.com, miquels@cistron-office.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Message-Id: <20030620120910.3f2cb001.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <20030620001217.G6248@almesberger.net> References: <063301c32c47$ddc792d0$3f00a8c0@witbe> <1056027789.3ef1b48d3ea2e@support.tuxbox.dk> <03061908145500.25179@tabby> <20030619141443.GR29247@fs.tum.de> <20030619165916.GA14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620001217.G6248@almesberger.net> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1349 Lines: 29 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:12:17 -0300 Werner Almesberger wrote: > Larry McVoy wrote: > > These discussions always make me wonder if the open source crowd is ever > > going to realize it's reasonable to be friendly with commercial companies. > > The problem is that you can't trust a company. You may choose to > trust people who control or shape a company, but they may lose > that control, and then all bets are off. And that is exactly _the_ argument in this whole discussion. There seem to be people out there who want to make a living from _others_ _ancient_ work they bought for small bucks by sueing just about anyone. GPL has an inherent long-term strategy, you are talking of short-term, Larry. That does not match. If I am using only GPL-software I know I am able to use it as is in five years from now. If I depend on being nice to commercial companies, it may well turn out, that they are not being nice to me no matter what I do. In other words: it's all about being free or being dependant on goodwill. Greets to the land of the free and the home of the brave, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/