Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753244AbdGSGey (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Jul 2017 02:34:54 -0400 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:37758 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752812AbdGSGex (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Jul 2017 02:34:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 08:34:47 +0200 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Stephan =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , "Jason A. Donenfeld" , Arnd Bergmann , linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Message-ID: <20170719063447.GA13740@kroah.com> References: <3910055.ntkqcq1Chb@positron.chronox.de> <1780567.qGdv4EjEMp@positron.chronox.de> <20170718210816.o6c4iziaqj5dnnd3@thunk.org> <4766174.b2XBWsRgGl@positron.chronox.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4766174.b2XBWsRgGl@positron.chronox.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1334 Lines: 31 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 08:22:18AM +0200, Stephan M?ller wrote: > Am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2017, 23:08:16 CEST schrieb Theodore Ts'o: > > Hi Theodore, > > > > I've been trying to take the best features and suggestions from your > > proposal and integrating them into /dev/random already. Things that > > I've chosen not take is basically because I disbelieve that the Jitter > > RNG is valid. And that's mostly becuase I trust Peter Anvin (who has > > access to Intel chip architects, who has expressed unease) more than > > you. (No hard feelings). > > I am unsure why you always point to the Jitter RNG. This is one noise source > to keep or to remove -- at least it provides more data during early boot than > any other noise source we currently have. > > In the email [1] I have expressed the core concerns I see -- none of them > address the need to keep the Jitter RNG as one noise source. To address those, > a very deep dive into random.c needs to be made. > > Such deep dive has the potential to be disruptive. Therefore, doesn't it make > more sense to have such conceptual changes rather covered in a separate > implementation? No, it makes more sense to send individual patches addressing your concerns to the existing random driver. Again, that's how kernel development has always worked. thanks, greg k-h