Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262383AbTFTPKw (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:10:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263171AbTFTPKw (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:10:52 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:52431 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262383AbTFTPKv (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:10:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:24:47 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Werner Almesberger Cc: Larry McVoy , Stephan von Krawczynski , miquels@cistron-office.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Message-ID: <20030620152447.GB17563@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Werner Almesberger , Larry McVoy , Stephan von Krawczynski , miquels@cistron-office.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <063301c32c47$ddc792d0$3f00a8c0@witbe> <1056027789.3ef1b48d3ea2e@support.tuxbox.dk> <03061908145500.25179@tabby> <20030619141443.GR29247@fs.tum.de> <20030619165916.GA14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620001217.G6248@almesberger.net> <20030620120910.3f2cb001.skraw@ithnet.com> <20030620142436.GB14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620121834.A1418@almesberger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030620121834.A1418@almesberger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1609 Lines: 32 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 12:18:34PM -0300, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Larry McVoy wrote: > > The reason I take this point of view, unpopular though it may be, > > is that I see open source as basically parasitic. > > Think of it as a child that's growing up. For quite a while, it > will just draw resources from the parents, add little work or > innovations, and will have considerably less economical power > than the parents. That's a perfectly fine thing, it's the normal circle of life and to some extent I think we're in agreement. The point I'm trying to make is could we please think about how create a world that is sustainable and based completely on open source? There are lots of people who say you can't trust anything but open source, the companies behind are evil corporate monsters just waiting to jump out from under your bed at night and grab you (sorry, couldn't resist). Seriously, if what you want is an all open source all the time, which would be fantastic in some sense, then how about a plan that shows how that will work? Saying that open source is a child growing is a nice analogy but what's the grown up child look like? Is this going to just be like the 60's flower children that grow up and turn into their parents after all? -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/