Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262930AbTFUN41 (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:56:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264252AbTFUN4U (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:56:20 -0400 Received: from mail.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.8]:17927 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S262930AbTFUNz4 (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:55:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:10:26 +0200 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: Larry McVoy Cc: lm@bitmover.com, jgarzik@pobox.com, lawrence@the-penguin.otak.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Message-Id: <20030621161026.20857c06.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <20030621133831.GA10089@work.bitmover.com> References: <20030619165916.GA14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620001217.G6248@almesberger.net> <20030620120910.3f2cb001.skraw@ithnet.com> <20030620142436.GB14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620143012.GC14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030621133831.GA10089@work.bitmover.com> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1800 Lines: 37 On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 06:38:31 -0700 Larry McVoy wrote: > [...] > Second, the point you are missing, on purpose? is that with a pure > open source play there is no barrier to entry for anyone else, they > can take your source and sell it under the same terms. Sorry, they don't _sell_ it, because this is a GPL violation. They may distribute it. And thats about it. And _after_ it is distributed they would have to prove the same in-depth knowledge about the product and its source that you have being its author. Do you think you have problems explaining your service will be better if your name / your companies name is written everywhere in the source (which everybody can take a look)? Not very likely I guess. > You're welcome to rant and rave about how wrong all this is, but they > are well established basic business principles and your ranting isn't > going to change them, it's going to take something more substantial > to do that. If you want to change them, start with talking to the > business folks, not me. Hm, very likely I cannot explain my point to you. My simple point is this: The "business folks" (as you call them) have no need to change, as they mostly act towards the needs of their respective employers. I am trying to tell you that there are other possibilities to get into business than the one you are preferring. There is nothing wrong with you going that direction and me going in the opposite one, only you sound like denying that my way _exists_. And this is wrong. Plain and simple. Regards, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/