Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265257AbTFUStg (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:49:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265261AbTFUStg (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:49:36 -0400 Received: from lvs00-fl.valueweb.net ([216.219.253.199]:35999 "EHLO ams002.ftl.affinity.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265257AbTFUStf (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:49:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3EF4ABF7.9050003@coyotegulch.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:03:19 -0400 From: Scott Robert Ladd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030527 Debian/1.3.1-2 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephan von Krawczynski CC: Werner Almesberger , lm@work.bitmover.com, miquels@cistron-office.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] References: <063301c32c47$ddc792d0$3f00a8c0@witbe> <1056027789.3ef1b48d3ea2e@support.tuxbox.dk> <03061908145500.25179@tabby> <20030619141443.GR29247@fs.tum.de> <20030619165916.GA14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620001217.G6248@almesberger.net> <20030620120910.3f2cb001.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <20030620120910.3f2cb001.skraw@ithnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2451 Lines: 51 Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > GPL has an inherent long-term strategy, you are talking of short-term, Larry. > That does not match. If I am using only GPL-software I know I am able to use it > as is in five years from now. If I depend on being nice to commercial > companies, it may well turn out, that they are not being nice to me no matter > what I do. A very technocratic view, to be sure. Source code is no guranatee of future portability or viability; for the vast, vast majority of users -- we do care about those, don't we? -- source code is useless. You or I might be able to keep a source-based program going past the interest of its creators -- but most computer users lack the skills and tools to equal our prowess. Scan SourceForge and Freshmeat, and you'll find an amazing number of dead and dying projects, without support or documentation. The printing press didn't automatically impart literacy upon the masses, and the source code for "free" software promises nothing about future support. I'm not saying that commercial companies are any more reliable -- what I *am* pointing out is that "free" software makes no guarantees, either. > In other words: it's all about being free or being dependant on goodwill. Free software is very dependent on good will -- the good will of developers to continue maintaining and updating their software for free! A commercial software company only survives if it provides value to its customers -- and that value includes future support. Most "free" software exists to scratch an itch; if the programmer stops scratching, users are out-of-luck. Unless, of course, they hire someone like you or me to maintain or update an abandoned program... ;) Commercial software is no better or worse then its free counterpart; they merely operate under different rules. While I love free software and strongly support its existence and growth, I also am cognizant of its weaknesses. To ignore those weaknesses requires either fanaticism or willful ignorance. -- Scott Robert Ladd Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com) Professional programming for science and engineering; Interesting and unusual bits of very free code. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/