Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264534AbTFVKPq (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:15:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264611AbTFVKPp (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:15:45 -0400 Received: from mail.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.8]:51726 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S264534AbTFVKPo (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:15:44 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:30:19 +0200 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: Scott Robert Ladd Cc: wa@almesberger.net, lm@work.bitmover.com, miquels@cistron-office.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Message-Id: <20030622123019.0ca12f30.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <3EF50289.8000700@coyotegulch.com> References: <063301c32c47$ddc792d0$3f00a8c0@witbe> <1056027789.3ef1b48d3ea2e@support.tuxbox.dk> <03061908145500.25179@tabby> <20030619141443.GR29247@fs.tum.de> <20030619165916.GA14404@work.bitmover.com> <3EF50289.8000700@coyotegulch.com> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2890 Lines: 57 On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:12:41 -0400 Scott Robert Ladd wrote: > I most certainly agree. Knowledge is built on knowledge, and if a Homo > erectus had patented the flaked stone tool, we would all still be living > in caves. Hear, hear ... > Of course, not everyone is capable of creating a sharp edge by banging > the rocks together. And that's why different people do different things. And there is nothing wrong with that. > > If you can simply use the wheel and go on producing a > > car "on top" of it, you _saved_ money, time and manpower. > > The mere act of making code open (or object-oriented) does not make > people reuse it. I am constantly amazed by the amount of available > information, and am disturbed by how few people take advantage of it. > > Almost every company *does* reinvent the wheel -- and that can not be > legitimately blamed on closed-source software. Witness the massive > duplication of effort in the free software community -- KDE, Gnome, and > other "desktops" being a salient example. Egos, license disputes, > business concerns, and technical choices lead to duplication of effort; > as a former evangelist of object-oriented programming, I'm more than > aware that it is not technology that prevents code re-use, but psychology. Well, see it as an evolutionary process. Of course you will always see duplication as a try to re-invent something _better_. Anyway you will notice, that evolution lives by the possibility to reuse and refine things that have proven good. It is a matter of time simply. It is no matter of black and white, rather of darker and lighter grey. The more time the more the positive effects of the "lighter grey" open source strategy (compared to "darker grey" closed source) will take effect. See we are still at the very beginning of the "open source age". Since we all do not know what mission-critical questions for mankind will arise in upcoming years, we, too, cannot make claims about the resources needed to solve - or at least survive - them. To me it is very clear that open source has the capability to set resources free (see Larry: "will Sun survive the open source") that can be very well needed in other important areas. This is not bad, it is a chance. Reaching the same goal with less resources is never a bad thing. Just step back and watch the big picture, not only our "backstage area". A tool can be very important, but you also need the people to use it for reaching the right goal. Handing the car key to Homo erectus may not have been the right thing to do, though the "car tool" itself is brilliant. Regards, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/