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Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM]
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:46:04 -0700
From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Joe Briggs <jbriggs@briggsmedia.com>
Cc: Frank Cusack <fcusack@fcusack.com>, Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>

In five years of talking about this topic, I think this is the most
intelligent and thoughtful reply I've ever seen.  Kudos.

I'd suggest you post it to the list, it makes sense to me.  A lot of
sense.  And I, for one, hadn't really thought of it like this before.

Thanks for the mail.

--lm

On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:59:05PM -0400, Joe Briggs wrote:
> Linux is a liberator for applications developers.  Maybe Linux is an
> exercise in OS re-implementation, but the _existance_  of an accessable
> development and delployment platform is what enabled applications
> developers for M$ in the mid-90's, and what is enabling those with ideas,
> business plans, and innovation in todays capital-short market.  Before the
> artist can paint, he (she) needs a canvas. Linux is the canvas.
>
> On Friday 20 June 2003 08:04 pm, Frank Cusack wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 07:24:36AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> > >     I've said for years that the open source world is all about
> > >     reimplementing and not about new innovation.
> >
> > Almost spot-on.
> >
> > Where it's off is
> >
> > - It's not ALL about reimplenting.  Didn't Solaris' prstat come AFTER
> > top? Anyway I'm sure there are lots of examples here, maybe not LARGE
> > pieces of code (although I'll point to TeX since every exception needs an
> > exception as well), but I think you discount open source innovation too
> > much.  All of the ATTENTION is on the bits that are reimplementations
> > because that's how mass markets work.
> >
> > - Just because two people independenty implement something doesn't mean
> >   one of them is REimplementing.
> >
> > Isn't bk simply a reimplementation of p4 by your argument?
> >
> > /fc
> >
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> Joe Briggs
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