Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266017AbTFWNML (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:12:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266018AbTFWNKy (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:10:54 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:29881 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266019AbTFWNIl (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:08:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:22:31 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: David Woodhouse Cc: Larry McVoy , Stephan von Krawczynski , jgarzik@pobox.com, lawrence@the-penguin.otak.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Message-ID: <20030623132231.GC6715@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , David Woodhouse , Larry McVoy , Stephan von Krawczynski , jgarzik@pobox.com, lawrence@the-penguin.otak.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030619165916.GA14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620001217.G6248@almesberger.net> <20030620120910.3f2cb001.skraw@ithnet.com> <20030620142436.GB14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620143012.GC14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620163349.GG17563@work.bitmover.com> <20030621142048.2ae63afa.skraw@ithnet.com> <20030621133831.GA10089@work.bitmover.com> <1056358467.29264.41.camel@passion.cambridge.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1056358467.29264.41.camel@passion.cambridge.redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1109 Lines: 22 On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:54:27AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > It's not just access to the source code of the software -- it runs > deeper than that. To be honest, I consider hiding and restrictively > licensing your code to be largely analogous to security by obscurity -- > it tends to work to a large extent but it's a poor substitute for > _really_ fixing the problem, by being able to offer your customers a > decent service and making them want to stay with you. > > The increasing prevalence of Free Software means that the industry is > more and more about _services_ rather than products... The one flaw in this argument and all of those which say basically "services is the answer" is that it only works if you produce crappy software which needs servicing. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/