Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264700AbTFWPr5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:47:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264701AbTFWPr4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:47:56 -0400 Received: from pc2-cwma1-4-cust86.swan.cable.ntl.com ([213.105.254.86]:52944 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264700AbTFWPry (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:47:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] From: Alan Cox To: Larry McVoy Cc: David Woodhouse , Scott Robert Ladd , Stephan von Krawczynski , jgarzik@pobox.com, lawrence@the-penguin.otak.com, Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20030623153952.GB20103@work.bitmover.com> References: <20030620142436.GB14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620143012.GC14404@work.bitmover.com> <20030620163349.GG17563@work.bitmover.com> <20030621142048.2ae63afa.skraw@ithnet.com> <20030621133831.GA10089@work.bitmover.com> <1056358467.29264.41.camel@passion.cambridge.redhat.com> <20030623132231.GC6715@work.bitmover.com> <3EF70EF8.3050107@coyotegulch.com> <20030623150616.GA20103@work.bitmover.com> <1056382357.29264.281.camel@passion.cambridge.redhat.com> <20030623153952.GB20103@work.bitmover.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1056383941.13538.70.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 23 Jun 2003 16:59:02 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1663 Lines: 34 On Llu, 2003-06-23 at 16:39, Larry McVoy wrote: > Creating software costs money. > Open source doesn't produce very much money. > A world in which all software is produced via support contracts doesn't > look like a world in which there is very much new software. Thats how most of the world works. In fact open source isn't that different to the internal economy of many companies. Sooner or later it becomes more economic to fix the infrastructure as part of fixing the end users problem. And lets face it - if we started fixing the users problem a bit more the computing world would improve a hell of a lot. Making PC's doesn't produce much margin but I'd say Dell have produced some innovations wouldn't you agree ? Another problem we seem to have is this "all software" thing. All software will be C++, all software will be java, all software will be open source, all software will be .net. Clearly none of those are true and there will always be cases where the risk and capital required to get from where you are now to where you want to be are sufficiently high that gradual evolution won't get you there in the time you want, and the value of all the open pieces you could use isnt sufficient to outweigh being able to use copyright to get your investment back. One of the reasons copyright exists is so you can make that choice as author. In theory economics should ensure the right choices then win 8) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/