Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753867AbdG3HVV (ORCPT ); Sun, 30 Jul 2017 03:21:21 -0400 Received: from omta04.suddenlink.net ([208.180.40.74]:36904 "EHLO omta04.suddenlink.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751151AbdG3HVU (ORCPT ); Sun, 30 Jul 2017 03:21:20 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 424 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2017 03:21:19 EDT Subject: Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity To: kernel References: <6261acc7cc854161158181d1ecfc7682@redchan.it> <20170729200726.6qxlnh7mmfpfxkq3@thunk.org> From: "David C. Rankin" Organization: Rankin Law Firm, PLLC Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 02:14:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=dajC5jfe c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=G3gG6ho9WtcA:10 a=1pokcBzoUT8B9oigSfYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1032 Lines: 20 On 07/30/2017 12:55 AM, David Lang wrote: > You are thinking of Trademarks, they must be defended or you loose them. > Contracts and Licenses do not need to be defended at every chance or risk > loosing them. No, not always, it can apply in plain contract as well. The defenses that could be later raised by grsecurity if this issue goes unaddressed is are (1) latches; and (2) waiver. It is a slippery slope. While, without commenting on the dubious nature of the current use of the defenses (as catch-all, kitchen-sink affirmative-defenses), they can be expected to be raised if rights under GPL to insure no further restrictions are placed on subsequent use of the kernel-code are not enforced. I hope there is a centralized forum that will be established for this issue (there may be and I'm just not smart enough to have found it yet). Certainly, if for nothing else, so the advantages and disadvantages of both action, and inaction, can be peer-reviewed on both the legal and technical side. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.