Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261932AbTFXLG1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:06:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261939AbTFXLG1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:06:27 -0400 Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl ([194.109.127.139]:25094 "EHLO smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261932AbTFXLG0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:06:26 -0400 From: vanstadentenbrink@ahcfaust.nl To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:20:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: GPL violations by wireless manufacturers Message-ID: <3EF85024.4477.78EB14@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <3EF83FAF.24578.38A16F@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2099 Lines: 47 [ Please CC replies as I am not subscribed ] In response to DS: > So is a Linux distribution "a whole which is a work based on the" Linux > kernel? Would you argue that RedHat can't include proprietary software on > the same CD as the Linux kernel? All the software on the CD, assuming it's > Linux software, likewise extends the kernel through a well-defined boundary. No, definitely not. If that were the case, SuSE and Lindows etc. etc. would not be able to distribute proprietary software together with GPL'ed software. The GPL calls this 'mere aggregation': "In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under the scope of this License." These wireless products are different. The user doesn't have a choice to use or not to use the non-gpl'ed kernel module. He can not prevent the module from loading, he can not remove it from the running kernel and the device doesn't operate without the module. The module and the embedded Linux OS on the device are so interconnected that they can not be considered 'seperate works' under the GPL. Therefore the kernel module actually is GPL software itself. Buffalo Technology's response indicates that they agree with me (or perhaps they just don't want any trouble). In response to Zack Gilburd: > ...But where are the downloads? :-\ They don't have to offer the source as a download under the GPL. They just have to enable you to get to the source. As soon as Buffalo puts on the their website that they use GPL'ed software (they said they would do that within 48 hours) you should be able to request and receive the source code of the embedded Linux OS as well as the source code of the kernel module. Richard Ten Brink - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/