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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:31:09 +0400
From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] (sorry)
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That's a very generous offer.  Green, what would be required to do what 
he asks?

Hans

joe briggs wrote:

>Hans - 
>Here's a thought to chew on.  I _value_ your software and use it extensively 
>(along with other linux software).  Out of necessity I painfully roll my own 
>Debian distro/kernel and flinch _every_ time I use apt to update my boxes 
>(wondering if some damn PAM module is going to hose me).  Anyway, the point 
>is, I build video servers that I sell for a profit - it is how I make my 
>living.  I am also aware that in reality I am making a living off of the 
>backs of you (ala reiserfs) and others like you.  The reason that I use linux 
>is not because its free, but because it takes much less time to develop and 
>maintain my video applications under linux than windows,  because I can 
>remotely service and maintain the boxes that I sell, and because linux has 
>proven to be more reliable than the windows os that I used to base my product 
>on.  You see, the price is not the issue, its features, performance, and 
>reliability are.  So, consider this:  YOU roll a DEB-REISER distribution 
>targeted toward system builders such as me, that more smoothly incorporates 
>reisefs than does the woody cd's (and a lot less generic), and then support 
>the reiser-related issues, and I will happily pay you $100  per machine. It 
>is well worth it to me to keep you in business (not that my volume alone 
>would do it, but I am sure that there are a lot of others like me).  Don't 
>worry about putting in a licensing agent - honesty really works here.  I used 
>to base my product on RedHat and I purchased a copy of the OS for every box I 
>sold - not that a customer would ever look under the hood or even read the 
>docs, but it was my way of supporting the suppliers.  I don't use RedHat now 
>because I can't keep up with their release-to-release changes, and I need a 
>distro more turned toward enterprise servers.  The point is, I am not alone.
>
>Just a thought.
>
>Joe
>
>On Tuesday 24 June 2003 06:47 am, Stewart Smith wrote:
>  
>
>>On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:03:13AM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Umh, I would not mind something coming along to help me make it past
>>>October when my cash runs out.  Being able to afford a house is too much
>>>to ask but making payroll would be nice....  Government money has done a
>>>lot to keep me from going bankrupt.
>>>      
>>>
>>May I suggest whacking an icon up with "Donate to ReiserFS" up there?
>>
>>Samba and GNOME are two projects which do this and at least get a bit
>>of funding for it. Check out the samba one, tridge says it does okay
>>with the updating list of who's donated money - makes it into a bit
>>of a fun game for donators :)
>>
>>You've probably already got the credit card processing infrastructure
>>around, so it could be minimal effort - with only possible gain.
>>
>>I'm sure happy reiser users would be willing to chuck a couple of
>>bucks your way to ensure further development.
>>
>>----
>>Stewart Smith
>>Vice President, Linux Australia
>>http://www.linux.org.au (personal: http://www.flamingspork.com)
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Hans


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