Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751910AbdHBHXQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Aug 2017 03:23:16 -0400 Received: from namei.org ([65.99.196.166]:40739 "EHLO namei.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751104AbdHBHXO (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Aug 2017 03:23:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 17:22:30 +1000 (AEST) From: James Morris To: Roberto Sassu cc: Christoph Hellwig , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Linux-ima-devel] [PATCH, RESEND 08/12] ima: added parser for RPM data type In-Reply-To: <11206fd8-d189-deb0-ab67-aec373f8d979@huawei.com> Message-ID: References: <20170725154423.24845-9-roberto.sassu@huawei.com> <20170801102036.15371-1-roberto.sassu@huawei.com> <20170801102709.GA24285@infradead.org> <11206fd8-d189-deb0-ab67-aec373f8d979@huawei.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LRH 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1616 Lines: 38 On Tue, 1 Aug 2017, Roberto Sassu wrote: > On 8/1/2017 12:27 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 12:20:36PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote: > > > This patch introduces a parser for RPM packages. It extracts the digests > > > from the RPMTAG_FILEDIGESTS header section and converts them to binary > > > data > > > before adding them to the hash table. > > > > > > The advantage of this data type is that verifiers can determine who > > > produced that data, as headers are signed by Linux distributions vendors. > > > RPM headers signatures can be provided as digest list metadata. > > > > Err, parsing arbitrary file formats has no business in the kernel. > > The benefit of this choice is that no actions are required for > Linux distribution vendors to support the solution I'm proposing, > because they already provide signed digest lists (RPM headers). > > Since the proof of loading a digest list is the digest of the > digest list (included in the list metadata), if RPM headers are > converted to a different format, remote attestation verifiers > cannot check the signature. > > If the concern is security, it would be possible to prevent unsigned > RPM headers from being parsed, if the PGP key type is upstreamed > (adding in CC keyrings@vger.kernel.org). It's a security concern and also a layering violation, there should be no need to parse package file formats in the kernel. I'm not really clear on exactly how this patch series works. Can you provide a more concrete explanation of what steps would occur during boot and attestation? -- James Morris