Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262383AbTFZTCy (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:02:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262451AbTFZTCy (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:02:54 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:17805 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262383AbTFZTCn (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:02:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:13:27 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: David Weinehall Cc: Larry McVoy , Adrian Bunk , David Woodhouse , Scott Robert Ladd , Stephan von Krawczynski , jgarzik@pobox.com, lawrence@the-penguin.otak.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Message-ID: <20030626191327.GB14299@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , David Weinehall , Larry McVoy , Adrian Bunk , David Woodhouse , Scott Robert Ladd , Stephan von Krawczynski , jgarzik@pobox.com, lawrence@the-penguin.otak.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030621133831.GA10089@work.bitmover.com> <1056358467.29264.41.camel@passion.cambridge.redhat.com> <20030623132231.GC6715@work.bitmover.com> <3EF70EF8.3050107@coyotegulch.com> <20030623150616.GA20103@work.bitmover.com> <1056382357.29264.281.camel@passion.cambridge.redhat.com> <20030623153952.GB20103@work.bitmover.com> <20030626174520.GA3710@fs.tum.de> <20030626184033.GA14299@work.bitmover.com> <20030626191010.GI17986@khan.acc.umu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030626191010.GI17986@khan.acc.umu.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1214 Lines: 25 On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:10:10PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:40:33AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:45:21PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > That's probably a good enough test case. Explain to me how your support > > > > contracts are ever going to provide enough money to redo GCC or build > > > > something equally substantial. > > > > > > [incremental changes given as example] > > > > Incremental changes != redo. Redo is a ~$10M project. > > You are of course aware of the fact that gcc is already a testimony to > the fact that such a compiler can be made from scratch, aren't you? Aware of it, and friends with the founders of cygnus, the people who did it. I'm also aware of their finances and what it took and they are partially the basis for my point of view. GCC doesn't invalidate my case, it makes it. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/