Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752115AbdHPNGQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:06:16 -0400 Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.37]:48044 "EHLO resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751944AbdHPNGN (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:06:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:26:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Lameter X-X-Sender: cl@nuc-kabylake To: Mike Galbraith cc: "Paul E. McKenney" , Frederic Weisbecker , Luiz Capitulino , LKML , Peter Zijlstra , Chris Metcalf , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Rik van Riel , Wanpeng Li Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 7/9] housekeeping: Use own boot option, independant from nohz In-Reply-To: <1502812653.1349.94.camel@gmx.de> Message-ID: References: <1500643290-25842-1-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com> <1500643290-25842-8-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com> <20170811123927.33e094f3@redhat.com> <20170812141004.GA21918@lerouge> <20170813111340.0ade6d58@redhat.com> <20170814170107.GA27479@lerouge> <20170814133440.3dc31bad@redhat.com> <1502735386.31351.61.camel@gmx.de> <20170815130712.GA16627@lerouge> <1502810123.1349.71.camel@gmx.de> <20170815153005.GJ7017@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1502812653.1349.94.camel@gmx.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="8323329-1005134235-1502814371=:2578" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfA6GYCRcrr1BhBghJNYzAQVxoUOnkafzusMQk7uCzqal0fd7bF5zpuUX6yrWmATaGReJLAHfd79HTCd9wn/SxNIejCyYrwyYNtGXmEpEhHW3b5xbqdSy IaZHHRab2aj/2OL7xj+vzbBJLuTikJSBMdM+Rq2rF0NwwOUkZxmUVmTpiYh7lk2XWqXMciKR1iOZR6Jv3qdfBbwmgOweFQeTcTw8XoJe/a2iGbhLPmWNxt2U +Wwip9qyCzfvkTeFyXTtDYThTuVLyi0KVdsYvF1JTXkx3RJWZumGIlZAC2fkxMLqzTNReGZGOde+WVsllp+ftqvoF+dMLmfJ2nth5vrTzwT/dVkIK1/FO+P7 KU2pbm2p2NrNy+sJC2eCQnvp3Iz7r9tVDDSkLoFJQdfCcWR4QY6fleFl0Xxzj8W9wxY1oFfD1lHEAMbqwUhL58dSSSc/+/el50RM0bq+OC6e/ZhGKGXexD1F Q+xLoMnGuifcHRJ8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1356 Lines: 33 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-1005134235-1502814371=:2578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 10:52 -0500, Christopher Lameter wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > > Don't the HPC guys just disable idle_balance(), or am I out of date again? > > > > Ummm.. Why does idle management matter when your goal is to keep all > > processor busy working at maximum throughput? > > If you _never_ idle, you never have to worry about it.  Is 100% CPU > until the end of time all there is to HPC? Most of the time that is true for HPC loads. They may also go through a I/O throughput constrained processing phase or synchronization phase where idle activity occurs. However, there are also low latency loads that are often confused with HPC. Those are usually waiting idle until an event happens and then have to react to it in the fastest way possible. After that they go back to idle. You could call this a RT load (since the term seems to be so flexible...) but its more event based than the typical idea of realtime (do something at this and thata time). --8323329-1005134235-1502814371=:2578--