Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265200AbTF3ISr (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jun 2003 04:18:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265303AbTF3ISr (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jun 2003 04:18:47 -0400 Received: from astound-64-85-224-253.ca.astound.net ([64.85.224.253]:28683 "EHLO master.linux-ide.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265200AbTF3ISo (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jun 2003 04:18:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Hedrick To: David Schwartz cc: ahorn@deorth.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: Dell vs. GPL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2097 Lines: 48 Do not confuse contract and right to use license, they are legally different. There is no contract law in GPL. Andre Hedrick LAD Storage Consulting Group On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, David Schwartz wrote: > > > Well, I couldn't possibly comment on that, but my original point stands; > > that pursuit of GPL violation must be pursued by the copyright _holder_, > > unless they assign that copyright to subsequent third-party beneficiaries. > > which technically I don't think they do, they merely grant a right to make > > copies in perpetuity, subject to the conditions of the GPL (or something > > like that) > > > > right ? > > If you phrase it as a pursuit of a license violation, yes. But that's not > what the suit would look like. You wouldn't be accusing them of violating > your copyright rights, you'd simply be accusing them of withholding from you > a benefit that was secured for you in a contract. That the contract involved > copyright rights is not important because you're not pursuing the copyright > rights. > > In other words, you're not accusing them of a copyright violation, you're > accusing them of a contract violation. Specifically, they entered into a > contract (which named you as an intended beneficiary), took what the > contract offered them but failed to provide you the benefit the contract > secured you. > > If I sell you my car, but the contract stipulates that you must let my > grandmother drive on the first Saturday of the month, and you don't let her > do that, she can sue you. She wouldn't be arguing that you stole the car or > defrauded me in the sale. She'd simply argue that you received valuable > compensation in exchange for a benefit you were to provide to her, and that > you failed to provide her that benefit, and thus you're liable for her > damages or must provide the benefit. > > DS > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/