Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752247AbdHQKvg (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2017 06:51:36 -0400 Received: from hs01.dk-develop.de ([213.136.71.231]:57671 "EHLO hs01.dk-develop.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751586AbdHQKve (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2017 06:51:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:51:33 +0200 From: Danilo Krummrich To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: Linus Walleij , Will Deacon , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Input , Dmitry Torokhov , devicetree@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] serio: PS2 gpio bit banging driver for the serio bus In-Reply-To: <20170817090908.GP20805@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> References: <20170731222452.22887-1-danilokrummrich@dk-develop.de> <20170807182207.348762301bf3d7f8509b1bf7@dk-develop.de> <8e5e73575b3a70e0e60931698687471d@dk-develop.de> <20170817090908.GP20805@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> Message-ID: User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1698 Lines: 41 On 2017-08-17 11:09, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:16:20AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: >> writel() should be guaranteeing that the values hit the hardware, >> wmb() is >> spelled out "write memory barrier" I don't see what you're after here. > > Incorrect. writel() has a barrier which ensures that data written to > memory (eg, dma coherent memory) is visible to the hardware prior to > the write hitting the hardware. > > There is no barrier to ensure that the write hits the hardware in a > timely manner - the write can be buffered by the buses, which will > delay it before it hits its destination. > > PCI particularly buffers MMIO writes, and the requirement there has > always been that if you need the write to hit the hardware in a timely > fashion, you must perform a read-back to force the bus to deliver the > write (since a read is not allowed to overlap a write.) > > The solution is never to use barrier() - barrier() is a _compiler_ > barrier and does nothing for posted writes on hardware buses. Thanks for clarification. I thought I just need a wmb() to make sure writel() can not be reordered with another store operation. I wasn't aware that writel() is defined to guarantee this on every arch. That having the correct execution order is not enough on some buses because of buffering is really something to be aware of, thanks again for pointing this out. So for the scenario I was concerned about I would expect the irqchip driver guarantees the write actually hits the the hardware (if necessary read it back) before the function (disable_irq_nosync()) returns, is that correct? Though, having the need should be very unlikely.