Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266490AbTGEUxg (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:53:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266491AbTGEUxg (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:53:36 -0400 Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.43]:12464 "EHLO mail-in-03.arcor-online.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266490AbTGEUxf (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:53:35 -0400 From: Daniel Phillips To: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: 2.5.74-mm1 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:09:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org References: <20030703023714.55d13934.akpm@osdl.org> <200307051728.12891.phillips@arcor.de> <20030705121416.62afd279.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20030705121416.62afd279.akpm@osdl.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307052309.12680.phillips@arcor.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1421 Lines: 34 On Saturday 05 July 2003 21:14, Andrew Morton wrote: > Daniel Phillips wrote: > > The situation re scheduling in 2.5 feels much as > > the vm situation did in 2.3 > > I've been trying to avoid thinking about that comparison. > > I don't think it's really, really bad at present. Just "should be a bit > better". Ever since I -niced Zinf a coupld of hours ago I haven't had a problem. This is a fine way to handle the problem. We're not dealing with an "interactive scheduling" problem here, it's simply realtime scheduling and needs to be treated as such. Unfortunately, negative priority requires root privilege, at least on Debian. That's dumb. By default, the root privilege requirement should kick in at something like -5 or -10, so ordinary users can set priorities higher than the default, as well as lower. For the millions of desktop users out there, sound ought to work by default, not be broken by default. The "better" mechanism for sound scheduling is SCHED_RR, which requires root privilege for some reason that isn't clear to me. Or maybe there once was a good reason, back in the days of the dinosaurs. Regards, Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/