Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751509AbdINI6b (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Sep 2017 04:58:31 -0400 Received: from mx0b-001b2d01.pphosted.com ([148.163.158.5]:59419 "EHLO mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751174AbdINI6a (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Sep 2017 04:58:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/20] mm: VMA sequence count To: Sergey Senozhatsky Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, peterz@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kirill@shutemov.name, ak@linux.intel.com, mhocko@kernel.org, dave@stgolabs.net, jack@suse.cz, Matthew Wilcox , benh@kernel.crashing.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au, paulus@samba.org, Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , hpa@zytor.com, Will Deacon , Sergey Senozhatsky , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com, khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com, npiggin@gmail.com, bsingharora@gmail.com, Tim Chen , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org References: <1504894024-2750-1-git-send-email-ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1504894024-2750-5-git-send-email-ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170913115354.GA7756@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> <44849c10-bc67-b55e-5788-d3c6bb5e7ad1@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170914003116.GA599@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> <441ff1c6-72a7-5d96-02c8-063578affb62@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170914081358.GG599@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> From: Laurent Dufour Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:58:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170914081358.GG599@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 17091408-0016-0000-0000-000004ECE36B X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 17091408-0017-0000-0000-00002827036D Message-Id: <26fa0b71-4053-5af7-baa0-e5fff9babf41@linux.vnet.ibm.com> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2017-09-14_02:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1709140134 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1387 Lines: 47 On 14/09/2017 10:13, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote: > Hi, > > On (09/14/17 09:55), Laurent Dufour wrote: > [..] >>> so if there are two CPUs, one doing write_seqcount() and the other one >>> doing read_seqcount() then what can happen is something like this >>> >>> CPU0 CPU1 >>> >>> fs_reclaim_acquire() >>> write_seqcount_begin() >>> fs_reclaim_acquire() read_seqcount_begin() >>> write_seqcount_end() >>> >>> CPU0 can't write_seqcount_end() because of fs_reclaim_acquire() from >>> CPU1, CPU1 can't read_seqcount_begin() because CPU0 did write_seqcount_begin() >>> and now waits for fs_reclaim_acquire(). makes sense? >> >> Yes, this makes sense. >> >> But in the case of this series, there is no call to >> __read_seqcount_begin(), and the reader (the speculative page fault >> handler), is just checking for (vm_seq & 1) and if this is true, simply >> exit the speculative path without waiting. >> So there is no deadlock possibility. > > probably lockdep just knows that those locks interleave at some > point. > > > by the way, I think there is one path that can spin > > find_vma_srcu() > read_seqbegin() > read_seqcount_begin() > raw_read_seqcount_begin() > __read_seqcount_begin() That's right, but here this is the sequence counter mm->mm_seq, not the vm_seq one. This one is held to protect walking the VMA list "locklessly"... Cheers, Laurent.