Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269207AbTGJLK4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:10:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269206AbTGJLK4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:10:56 -0400 Received: from pc2-cwma1-4-cust86.swan.cable.ntl.com ([213.105.254.86]:59316 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269207AbTGJLKs convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:10:48 -0400 Subject: Re: RFC: what's in a stable series? From: Alan Cox To: herbert@13thfloor.at Cc: Jeff Garzik , LKML , Marcelo Tosatti In-Reply-To: <20030710033409.GA1498@www.13thfloor.at> References: <3F0CBC08.1060201@pobox.com> <20030710033409.GA1498@www.13thfloor.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Organization: Message-Id: <1057836155.8005.9.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 10 Jul 2003 12:22:35 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 983 Lines: 22 On Iau, 2003-07-10 at 04:34, Herbert Pƶtzl wrote: > In my opinion (and you requested input *g*), the > kernel userland API can be changed as much as is > required to improve/stabilize/bugfix the kernel, > unless this change breaks something in userland > without an already available update/upgrade/etc ... In a lot of cases (like O_DIRECT) its cleaner to simply break the API in a way that will spew warnings if people miss changes than mess around with extra methods that instead break drivers that forgot to use C99 initializers. I plan to carry on breaking the kernel internal API when I have to and its easy to fix up the few affected users. I broke all the audio drivers between 2.4.21->22 but that was worth doing for example. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/