Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270121AbTGMFQx (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:16:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270120AbTGMFQx (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:16:53 -0400 Received: from pizda.ninka.net ([216.101.162.242]:10688 "EHLO pizda.ninka.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270119AbTGMFQc (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:16:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:22:22 -0700 From: "David S. Miller" To: Jan Rychter Cc: linux-net@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org Message-Id: <20030712222222.01089864.davem@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1056755336.5459.16.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030627.172123.78713883.davem@redhat.com> <1056827972.6295.28.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030628.150328.74739742.davem@redhat.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.6; sparc-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2079 Lines: 47 On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:07:42 -0700 Jan Rychter wrote: > Interesting you should think you're 'rewarding' people. I thought your > goal was to have fun working on cool software and making it > better. I also thought I had the same goal as a bug-reporter. > > When I write software, I care about every bug report and consider people > doing the reporting a very valuable resource. The whole game changes when you are stretched as thinly as I am. Scaling becomes everything, and nitpicking through vague and poorly composed bug reports is an absolute waste of my time as networking subsystem maintainer. If other people want to improve bug reports, put them into a cute usable database, and munge them along, that's fine with me. But _I_ only want to work with things that make the best use of my limited time. To be frank and honest, I do things that interest _ME_. And waddling through poorly made bug reports is anything but interesting, in fact it's frustrating work. I'd rather implement a software 802.11 stack or TCP Vegas implementation, THAT is what is a good use of my time because of my knowledge of how all these kinds of things work in the Linux networking. I can do things overnight that would take others weeks. Having me pillage through a bug database is a poor use of my time and capabilities. And all of my time is spent reviewing patches and dealing with the properly composed bug reports anyways, so even if I enjoyed pillaging through badly made bug reports I couldn't. People are assuming that just because _I_ don't want to work on the bad bug reports that I think nobody should. It's the exact opposite. I can't force other people to do or not do things anyways, just like everyone trying to somehow make it my "duty" to look at every single bug report cannot force me to do that. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/