Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:29:19 +0200
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Michael Frank <mflt1@micrologica.com.hk>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@clear.net.nz>,
       swsusp-devel <swsusp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
       Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: Thoughts wanted on merging Software Suspend enhancements
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Hi!

> > > > > - user can abort at any time during suspend (oh, I forgot, I wanted
> > > > > to...) by just pressing Escape
> > > >
> > > > That seems like missfeature. We don't want joe random user that is at
> > > > the console to prevent suspend by just pressing Escape. Maybe magic
> > > > key to do that would be acceptable...
> 
> Dumb question applicable to 9x% of computers: how do you secure the suspend 
> switch and OFF switch, not to mention the power plug or the battery?
> 
> As to security many portables have a bios password and no other passwords 
> thereafter for the user account. The abort feature events could be enabled 
> via swsusp proc entry mainly for (desktop) security. Also, then you ought 
> to think about securing suspend events (don't swsusp the webserver
> please)!

Only root can write to /proc/acpi/sleep, so there's no problem.

And having config variable just for escape during suspend is ugly.

> In practice, when suspending, in many cases one would like to abort. Suspend 
> should be abortable by ESC and post 1.0: the lid switch and/or suspend switch. 
> If you think about it it makes sense to abort suspend instead of having 
> to wait 15-40 seconds and reenter the bios password and wait another 10-30 
> seconds. (assuming 2.4 speeds)
> 
> The way I would use S3/S4 is reboot only for a new kernel, and really use the 
> machine portably much more. S3 would be used for short suspends and S4 for 
> longer suspends.
> 
> In short, this is an _important_ feature _as_ much as S3 and S4.

If you say that aborting with Esc is as important as having swsusp in
the first place... that's not true.
								Pavel
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