Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753122AbdLHRiH (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Dec 2017 12:38:07 -0500 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([146.0.238.70]:56914 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752668AbdLHRiE (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Dec 2017 12:38:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 18:37:59 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Andy Lutomirski cc: Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , X86 ML , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Brian Gerst , David Laight , Kees Cook , Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [PATCH] LDT improvements In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <48fe5cf1382d6a95c7b1837415882edcc81a9781.1512631324.git.luto@kernel.org> <20171207124347.p7kdj7q4qqs3ivri@pd.tnic> <665F1CA8-D012-4465-B5F7-E81E088847DB@amacapital.net> <20171208073454.dicyefwncsihq7sm@gmail.com> <20171208094400.wqnezwukq5yx4mgq@gmail.com> <20171208113128.hdpeznolztrdzjpf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1046 Lines: 28 On Fri, 8 Dec 2017, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > Can we take a step back here? I think there are four vaguely sane > ways to make the LDT work: > > 1. The way it is right now -- in vmalloc space. The only real > downside is that it requires exposing that part of vmalloc space in > the user tables, which is a bit gross. > > 2. In some fixmap-like space, which is what my patch does, albeit > buggily. This requires a PGD that we treat as per-mm, not per-cpu, > but that's not so bad. > > 3. In one of the user PGDs but above TASK_SIZE_MAX. This is > functionally almost identical to #2, except that there's more concern > about exploits that write past TASK_SIZE_MAX. > > 4. In an actual vma. I don't see the benefit of doing this at all -- > it's just like #2 except way more error prone. Hell, you have to make > sure that you can't munmap or mremap it, which isn't a consideration > at all with the other choices. Why? You can unmap vdso or uprobe or whatever VMAs and you will simply die. You get what you asked for. Thanks, tglx