Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269619AbTGOTPR (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:15:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269621AbTGOTPR (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:15:17 -0400 Received: from [213.39.233.138] ([213.39.233.138]:17619 "EHLO wohnheim.fh-wedel.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269619AbTGOTPN (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:15:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:28:53 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel To: Dave Jones , James Simmons , Alan Cox , dank@reflexsecurity.com, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test1-ac1 Matrox Compile Error Message-ID: <20030715192853.GE8240@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> References: <1058290204.3857.51.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030715175758.GC15505@suse.de> <20030715184909.GD8240@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> <20030715191328.GB20424@suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030715191328.GB20424@suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1350 Lines: 36 On Tue, 15 July 2003 20:13:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: > > Sorry, any vendor contemplating shipping 2.6test in a device at this stage > is a lunatic. I don't care about lunatics. As we saw recently there > are a lot of wireless routers and the like out there all stuck on some > magical 2.4.5 kernel. That sucks, but it's at least better than putting > beta quality code in something people pay money for. Well, the good old embedded process is this: Take what's availlable (2.4.5 then). Adapt to the hardware. Test for a while. Ship it. Don't touch it anymore. So what is lunatic about doing the same with 2.6test? It may make the test a little more expensive, but the adaptation will be cheaper, so you are just about even. And the result is no less frightening than a 2.4.2 kernel with various backports from 2.4.younameit, and even more quick hacks. The only thing we agree on is that it would be loony to port known working hardware to a newer kernel. J?rn -- Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear. -- Ambrose Redmoon - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/