Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751952AbdLNLSc (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2017 06:18:32 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([65.50.211.133]:55124 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751721AbdLNLS3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2017 06:18:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:18:17 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: "Theodore Ts'o" , Byungchul Park , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , david@fromorbit.com, willy@infradead.org, Linus Torvalds , Amir Goldstein , byungchul.park@lge.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com Subject: Re: About the try to remove cross-release feature entirely by Ingo Message-ID: <20171214111817.xnyxgtremfspjk7f@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20171214030711.gtxzm57h7h4hwbfe@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171214030711.gtxzm57h7h4hwbfe@thunk.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 755 Lines: 14 On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:07:11PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > interpreted this as the lockdep maintainers saying, "hey, not my > fault, it's the subsystem maintainer's fault for not properly > classifying the locks" --- and thus dumping the responsibility in the > subsystem maintainers' laps. Let me clarify that I (as lockdep maintainer) disagree with that sentiment. I have spend a lot of time over the years staring at random code trying to fix lockdep splats. Its awesome if corresponding subsystem maintainers help out and many have, but I very much do not agree its their problem and their problem alone. This attitude is one of the biggest issues I have with the crossrelease stuff and why I don't disagree with Ingo taking it out (for now).