Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756247AbdLOKd6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Dec 2017 05:33:58 -0500 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.101.70]:53706 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755328AbdLOKdw (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Dec 2017 05:33:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm/arm64: don't set vtimer->cnt_ctl in kvm_arch_timer_handler To: Christoffer Dall Cc: Jia He , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jia He References: <1513148407-2611-1-git-send-email-hejianet@gmail.com> <20171213091803.GQ910@cbox> <20171214130954.GV910@cbox> <5615f3e1-756e-0537-f0b6-20ae8626ac87@gmail.com> <20171214154518.GX910@cbox> <519f0e33-4419-68be-32b4-11bb5e19cf17@arm.com> <20171215101053.GZ910@cbox> From: Marc Zyngier Organization: ARM Ltd Message-ID: <83d52c86-0c09-0a18-34e3-55eb213f8083@arm.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:33:48 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171215101053.GZ910@cbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1726 Lines: 47 On 15/12/17 10:10, Christoffer Dall wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 09:09:05AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote: >> On 15/12/17 02:27, Jia He wrote: >>> >>> >> >> [...] >> >>>> @@ -367,6 +368,7 @@ static void vtimer_save_state(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu) >>>> >>>> /* Disable the virtual timer */ >>>> write_sysreg_el0(0, cntv_ctl); >>>> + isb(); >>> My only concern is whether this isb() is required here? >>> Sorryif this is a stupid question.I understand little about arm arch >>> memory barrier. But seems isb will flush all the instruction prefetch.Do >>> you think if an timer interrupt irq arrives, arm will use the previous >>> instruction prefetch? >> >> >> This barrier has little to do with prefetch. It just guarantees that the >> code after the isb() is now running with a disabled virtual timer. >> Otherwise, a CPU can freely reorder the write_sysreg() until the next >> context synchronization event. >> >> An interrupt coming between the write and the barrier will also act as a >> context synchronization event. For more details, see the ARMv8 ARM (the >> glossary has a section on the concept). >> > > So since an ISB doesn't guarantee that the timer will actually be > disabled, is it a waste of energy to have it, or should we keep it as a > best effort kind of thing? nit: the ISB does offer that guarantee. It is just that the guarantee doesn't extend to an interrupt that has already been signalled. The main issue I have with not having an ISB is that it makes it harder to think of when the disabling actually happens. The disabling could be delayed for a very long time, and would make things harder to debug if they were going wrong. Thanks, M. -- Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...