Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S938329AbdLRSfV convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:35:21 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:60488 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758910AbdLRSfP (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:35:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1513622090.7113.66.camel@gmx.de> Subject: Re: NFS: 82ms wakeup latency 4.14-rc4 From: Mike Galbraith To: "J. Bruce Fields" Cc: lkml , Jeff Layton , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 19:34:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20171218172711.GA12454@fieldses.org> References: <1513610231.7998.13.camel@gmx.de> <1513611112.7113.1.camel@gmx.de> <20171218163559.GA11829@fieldses.org> <1513616405.7113.18.camel@gmx.de> <1513617456.7113.25.camel@gmx.de> <20171218172711.GA12454@fieldses.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:EZbdt3A/0fkU6YXYHDqbMbgJwG0Ztp6GhUufvKdyUiXQRzcL+fu S52qj0LpqxfJIgMmrjOrY62oVknr7Hh17QcyhmMm2cJW/7pQuQiktLUnf+SQVtkZbUXVDR6 3vfP1b7MhlvZQzBczO2j3yjhnbsEitfWqHk3WcVxOOyXXmYI4n5b9zWqUH2xG35dJRlhIWh RGRjysTtn3Yv1E59bJ6rQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:okdQQiLTqMk=:qqF4lKWUHms6Ienx67Lpp5 4CinDrEETmIOIvVESwQtGu6s+lWeDfqOFQDzn/yH/GXBAK/6XszExrjcoOkQmHsGkUa8+L1hx DmmP/aqNUdRd2g2zIRid2VmPAUmw2gj0V5wK5RyVVWPqij223FYwVCUOVfalddl4LAtBWywPa aq2v3RLwX3/A940QVSA7MSFUx9C7OWYkCcFf1vW7LY/3yfolzIwdIEsWzsBP0pnsadEvb5SbU D6i8GfPR80/7r01FO7FNWLt1M1vHzv3DzidJTqb6TBEyp2seRI3xLVs6h4DD1Af8zfN1cjvk2 TBa5s1b9r2anE12rQP1Nya9dADM1uH041t+H1JUUVhkc8+gWNMUe/QXSvCwRGIa5LswhKSKDO CuECnC+7nfwwbEP4g90AKApX6/W1IQtRsJCeeBGuPL8+z4uNwU8adfeTs1rC6itRo0D8J+DDi NrB/8NVvTcv+9mWZAMaM/pUJ0KN5KWkpBJz2w19QrTaI2TcVeRIfTTd3wdE7nl0DvKuOvtETS BCK/wutLxttcMq8jjgnVSV2bngcDQTqXNM30K7HQeQ4Rje41CcYj+XGziumOLotIveTweSa9I 7V29wLJhIO7+jd45jiLsnZCCk3q9soQdDUtU8Wui24+dj/M+rqawbsW3ajCcLoCz3ndzBqkfK uczOxm21MY1QNfurrxz/ivh6fBB68Gr8t3zYh8MuIQDXQAeHVsmjLGWSEAtOwEzAiz21otKz+ R68y03mK6MyEj5t88U7g981S2IyBqGUMl+amSwF/4FeKkTttVybFiVythV98OOVCZJKwSLIzb Zzdh95Nqz+0u8/EeduDvOf5jKxegRv3qDBf++sbzln7tTNp7ho= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 467 Lines: 11 On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 12:27 -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > I'd forgotten about throughput/latency tradeoffs--but > couldn't those in theory be managed by runtime configuration of the > sceduler, or at least some smaller hammer than turning off preemption > entirely? A kernel that has all of the goop required to support preemption can't possibly perform as well as a kernel that can simply assume everything is safe. ?All that infrastructure costs cycles. -Mike