Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751376AbeACCKx (ORCPT + 1 other); Tue, 2 Jan 2018 21:10:53 -0500 Received: from LGEAMRELO11.lge.com ([156.147.23.51]:55456 "EHLO lgeamrelo11.lge.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751313AbeACCKk (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2018 21:10:40 -0500 X-Original-SENDERIP: 156.147.1.151 X-Original-MAILFROM: byungchul.park@lge.com X-Original-SENDERIP: 10.177.222.184 X-Original-MAILFROM: byungchul.park@lge.com Subject: Re: About the try to remove cross-release feature entirely by Ingo To: Theodore Ts'o , Matthew Wilcox , Byungchul Park , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , david@fromorbit.com, Linus Torvalds , Amir Goldstein , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, kernel-team@lge.com, daniel@ffwll.ch References: <20171229014736.GA10341@X58A-UD3R> <20171229035146.GA11757@thunk.org> <20171229072851.GA12235@X58A-UD3R> <20171230061624.GA27959@bombadil.infradead.org> <20171230154041.GB3366@thunk.org> <20171230204417.GF27959@bombadil.infradead.org> <20171230224028.GC3366@thunk.org> From: Byungchul Park Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:10:37 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171230224028.GC3366@thunk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: On 12/31/2017 7:40 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:44:17PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> >> I'm not sure I agree with this part. What if we add a new TCP lock class >> for connections which are used for filesystems/network block devices/...? >> Yes, it'll be up to each user to set the lockdep classification correctly, >> but that's a relatively small number of places to add annotations, >> and I don't see why it wouldn't work. > > I was exagerrating a bit for effect, I admit. (but only a bit). > > It can probably be for all TCP connections that are used by kernel > code (as opposed to userspace-only TCP connections). But it would > probably have to be each and every device-mapper instance, each and > every block device, each and every mounted file system, each and every > bdi object, etc. > > The point I was trying to drive home is that "all we have to do is > just classify everything well or just invalidate the right lock Just to be sure, we don't have to invalidate lock objects at all but a problematic waiter only. > objects" is a massive understatement of the complexity level of what > would be required, or the number of locks/completion handlers that > would have to be blacklisted. > > - Ted > -- Thanks, Byungchul